Thursday, January 15, 2009

Waterboarding IS Torture Because We Said So In The Past

I was reading Glenn Greenwald's new post today about the reasoning behind why all most of the media folk are pushing back against prosecuting President Bush and his minions for war crimes. It is a very interesting read, but at the bottom in an update he links to this article from 2007 on waterboarding. I have to admit that while having researched what waterboarding is and why it should be considered torture I hadn't really spent any time looking for historical precedent. Well after perusing the article it turns out that there really is no way to claim, as Dick Cheney recently tried to, that waterboarding ISN'T torture. Why you ask? Well because America has actually prosecuted and convicted people for torturing people with waterboarding.

Sometimes, though, the questions we face about detainees and interrogation get more specific. One such set of questions relates to "waterboarding."

That term is used to describe several interrogation techniques. The victim may be immersed in water, have water forced into the nose and mouth, or have water poured onto material placed over the face so that the liquid is inhaled or swallowed. The media usually characterize the practice as "simulated drowning." That's incorrect. To be effective, waterboarding is usually real drowning that simulates death. That is, the victim experiences the sensations of drowning: struggle, panic, breath-holding, swallowing, vomiting, taking water into the lungs and, eventually, the same feeling of not being able to breathe that one experiences after being punched in the gut. The main difference is that the drowning process is halted. According to those who have studied waterboarding's effects, it can cause severe psychological trauma, such as panic attacks, for years.

The United States knows quite a bit about waterboarding. The U.S. government -- whether acting alone before domestic courts, commissions and courts-martial or as part of the world community -- has not only condemned the use of water torture but has severely punished those who applied it.

After World War II, we convicted several Japanese soldiers for waterboarding American and Allied prisoners of war. At the trial of his captors, then-Lt.
Chase J. Nielsen, one of the 1942 Army Air Forces officers who flew in the Doolittle Raid and was captured by the Japanese, testified: "I was given several types of torture. . . . I was given what they call the water cure." He was asked what he felt when the Japanese soldiers poured the water. "Well, I felt more or less like I was drowning," he replied, "just gasping between life and death."


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After Japan surrendered, the United States organized and participated in the International Military Tribunal for the Far East, generally called the Tokyo War Crimes Trials. Leading members of Japan's military and government elite were charged, among their many other crimes, with torturing Allied military personnel and civilians. The principal proof upon which their torture convictions were based was conduct that we would now call waterboarding.


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The United States (like Britain, Australia and other Allies) pursued lower-ranking Japanese war criminals in trials before their own tribunals.


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As a result of such accounts, a number of Japanese prison-camp officers and guards were convicted of torture that clearly violated the laws of war. They were not the only defendants convicted in such cases. As far back as the U.S. occupation of the Philippines after the 1898 Spanish-American War, U.S. soldiers were court-martialed for using the "water cure" to question Filipino guerrillas.

More recently, waterboarding cases have appeared in U.S. district courts. One was a civil action brought by several Filipinos seeking damages against the estate of former Philippine president
Ferdinand Marcos. The plaintiffs claimed they had been subjected to torture, including water torture. The court awarded $766 million in damages, noting in its findings that "the plaintiffs experienced human rights violations including, but not limited to . . . the water cure, where a cloth was placed over the detainee's mouth and nose, and water producing a drowning sensation."

In 1983, federal prosecutors charged a
Texas sheriff and three of his deputies with violating prisoners' civil rights by forcing confessions. The complaint alleged that the officers conspired to "subject prisoners to a suffocating water torture ordeal in order to coerce confessions. This generally included the placement of a towel over the nose and mouth of the prisoner and the pouring of water in the towel until the prisoner began to move, jerk, or otherwise indicate that he was suffocating and/or drowning."

The four defendants were convicted, and the sheriff was sentenced to 10 years in prison.


It is pretty apparent that we have convicted perpetrators of waterboarding of war crimes not only when engaged in a war but also as a violation of a person's civil rights by law enforcement personel. So how is it that anybody can even question whether using waterboarding is a war crime or not? I can only guess its because for some it only matters when its being done to us, not when we are the ones doing it. But that goes against everything I was taught that our nation and our constitution stands for and I will not be decieved. No matter of rationalizing or editorializing changes the fact that our government officials participated in waterboarding which means they engaged in war crimes and the word came from the top to do it so the people at the top must be punished. If there is any justice in this world and in this country President Elect Obama will see to it that this happens.

2 comments:

  1. So literally tearing our country apart (it would happen) is worth the price of 'getting Bush'? I guess.

    You'd be a fool to believe that the US and every other industrialized country hasn't tortured ad infinitum since its inception. It will happen under Obama, it happened under Clinton and will happen in 2020, regardless of what any intl law provides.

    I guess the nuance in this instance is ignorance IS an excuse.

    k1

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  2. To answer your question if its worth it I will answer very succintly.

    YOU ARE GOT DAMN RIGHT!

    Now if you have any proof that this would "tear the country apart" I would love to see it. Curiously nobody has commissioned a poll to see what the public at large feels about prosecuting Bush et all for war crimes. But I will say this, I talk to people from all walks of life including the military and as of yet I haven't heard a sould say he shouldn't be investigated. Not as efficient or reflective as a national poll but its good enough for me.

    No man is above the law, its time we followed through on that axiom.

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