Showing posts with label trials. Show all posts
Showing posts with label trials. Show all posts

Friday, November 13, 2009

Finally, Justice

Eight years later Khalid Sheik Muhammed and various other terrorist will now be brought to justice.
Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the self-described mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks, and four other men accused in the plot will be prosecuted in federal court in New York City, a federal law enforcement official said early on Friday.

But the administration will prosecute Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri -- the detainee accused of planning the 2000 bombing of the U.S.S. Cole in Yemen -- and several other detainees before a military commission, the official said.

The decisions to give civilian prosecutors detainees accused of the 2001 terrorist attacks and keep the case of the Cole attack within the military system are expected to be announced at the Department of Justice later on Friday by Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr.


We've been through all the arguments before, but I guarantee we're about to have the same tiresome debate all over again. We'll hear that a U.S. criminal court couldn't possibly be equipped to hear a case against a terrorist suspect -- except for all the U.S. criminal courts that have already proven that they're well equipped to hear cases against terrorist suspects. We'll hear that KSM, if convicted, will end up in an American supermax facility that's ill prepared to house terrorists -- except for all the terrorists that already safely locked away in American supermax facilities.

I've simply never understood the right's weak-kneed panic over the U.S. justice system.


Contra Steve Benen who I have a great amount of respect for, this all makes perfect sense to me. Right wingers only talk about the values this country was founded on in abstract terms but they don't really believe in them. They believe that THEY are the only arbiters of the right way to do things and how justice should be carried out in this country. Its why they try every way possible to undermine existing laws without going through the normal channels to change them. Its why they can promote stuff like torture just to make themselves feel tough. Its why they are so against any bill that ensures equal rights for everyone. For the right its all about their own ego and in this case because they are scared of their own shadow they think everyone else should be too.

And its really that simple. For them they don't care what the law says. Instead they would rather just lock these guys away and throw away the key without even so much as a hint of a trial. They don't trust their fellow citizens to be able to bring back a guilty verdict and therefore they don't think they should have to rely on them. Its really funny to watch them constantly invoke the founding fathers when it suits them when the truth is they either have no idea and or have no respect for what this country was really founded on.

It is what it is.

Update: Utterly predictable...

Saturday, May 9, 2009

Congressman Moran KINDA Gets it

Congressman Jim Moran has an op ed in the Washington Post about Alexadria Virginia potentially hosting some of the trials for the GITMO detainees. It goes a lil something like this.

While closing Guantanamo would go a long way toward removing this stain on our national character, the decision to do so was the easy part. What to do with the detainees who remain of the more than 700 sent there since 2001 is much more difficult.

Like those in any other congressional districts, we Virginians would rather not have terrorism suspects held and tried in our back yard. Should some of the detainees at Guantanamo be sent to the Alexandria courthouse, there is no question that people in the immediate vicinity -- more than 10,000 residents and workers during business hours -- would be affected. The strain on local law enforcement and other public safety officers would be significant. The media attention following such a decision would probably generate public outrage in some circles over safety concerns, regardless of the security measures implemented.

Often, though, doing the right thing is neither popular nor convenient.

By and large, Alexandrians are civic-minded people and are ready to do their duty if it serves the greater good. They have shown this public spirit time and again. The "20th hijacker," Zacarias Moussaoui, who participated in planning the Sept. 11, 2001, attack on the Pentagon, was held and prosecuted in the Alexandria courthouse. Others who have been brought to justice in the court include the "American Taliban" John Walker Lindh; Beltway sniper John Allen Muhammad; and spies Robert Hanssen and Aldrich Ames.

In each case, Alexandria demonstrated the kind of courage and patriotism that can be traced to the city's roots as the home town of George Washington and Robert E. Lee.

Taking the easy route and joining the chorus of those crying "not in my back yard" is appealing. But that's not the Alexandria I know and have represented in Congress for nearly 20 years. Even before that, I served as mayor of the city, and I am confident that if asked to step forward, Alexandria would demonstrate resolve for a higher purpose, echoing John F. Kennedy's call to accept the challenge presented because it is what happens to be right and good for our nation.

Trying the accused, no matter how heinous the accusation, in a fair and transparent judicial procedure will reestablish our international moral authority and thus strengthen our national security.

Let there be no mistake: I'm not advocating for this burden. If there are more suitable locations in which to try the detainees, it would be a relief to all in this area.

But should President Obama determine that Alexandria needs to play a reasonably limited role in a nationwide effort to bring justice to the Guantanamo detainees and close this unfortunate chapter of American history, I am confident that Alexandrians will stand strong as they always have: gritting their teeth, stiffening their spines and carrying the load required so that the American values of justice and the rule of law are not overridden but, rather, respected and honored, as is our heritage as a great nation.


I am happy on the one hand to at least have Congressman Moran speaking out in favor of Virginians stepping up to the plate for detainee trials should President Obama determine that they should happen there. But on the other hand he comes off like he is damn near apologizing for asking the people to support this. What I want to know is if he actually did any polling showing that people in Alexandria were truly scared of detainees being housed and tried there. I bet he did not. But because Congressional Dems, especially those who have been in Congress for some time, are afraid of their own shadow I am sure that Moran just convinced himself that everyone MUST be scared because the Republicans keep saying they are. I will give Moran props for stepping up to the plate and being one of the first Democrats to do so but damn can we get someone with a little more courage the next time?